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The Doors - Break On Through (Completed)

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    Published on 16 Mar 2024 / In Rock / Classic Rock

    The Doors - Break On Through

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    ftele
    ftele 17 days ago

    Sounds really cool man, diggin those keys pcderic

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    CopyCat
    CopyCat 18 days ago

    CyberBass and everyone else involved - That was the perfect finishing touch for this collab, Rob. Well played, as always! And your timing adjustment sounds right on to me. I have done another stereo mix. If you all can agree with that, I'll mark this one as Completed. Feel free to submit any final tweaks of your own in DAW. I tried to recreate the same stereo effect as the original, and mix levels accordingly. Opinions?

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    CyberBass
    CyberBass 18 days ago

    CopyCat - I'm no student of the original, but generally bass and drums are center.

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    CyberBass
    CyberBass 18 days ago

    CopyCat - thanks for the props CC!

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    CopyCat
    CopyCat 18 days ago

    @CyberBass: I agree about bass and drums usually being centered. I almost always mix that way, but for this song I thought I'd try to match the original mix the best I could, just because I think it's kinda cool. If you go into DAW and solo the BT and turn up the volume and listen with headphones, you'll hear the original mix with all the original panning. I hear drums and bass on the left, and guitar and keys on the right, and Jim's vocal centered. I noticed in the mix you submitted, you left the panning alone, and only lowered your bass level a bit. So you thought the bass was set too high? Anyone else feel that way about the bass? Personally, I want to hear it, so I set it at 50% so it wouldn't stand out too much. I kinda like it there at 50% but I'm willing to lower it to where you set it, if you really want that. But I'd like to get everyone's opinion about the bass level first. We should all agree, I think.

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    CyberBass
    CyberBass 18 days ago

    @CopyCat : Ooops, I did pan bass and drums to center but maybe after I saved the mix. Anyway, you are correct the original is similar to this. As long as the right side doesn't feel like there's a hole in it - cool with me.

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    CopyCat
    CopyCat 18 days ago

    @CyberBass: We'll wait for everyone's opinion about the original mix. If we decide to center the bas and drums, we should probably keep some stereo effect by separating the guitar and keys to opposite sides, even though they're on the same side in the original. That would be better than all mono, IMO.

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    pcderic
    pcderic 17 days ago

    @CopyCat : I restored my previous organ track. It sounds better with the rest IMO. May I ask for a Publish sir?

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    CopyCat
    CopyCat 17 days ago

    @pcderic: They both sound good. Published. Are we all happy with it now?

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    pcderic
    pcderic 17 days ago

    @CopyCat : I'm good on my end. Thanks CC for your awesome collab. It's been fun!

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    CopyCat
    CopyCat 17 days ago

    @pcderic: Looking forward to Main Street, Night Moves, and Riders!

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    CyberBass
    CyberBass 18 days ago

    CopyCat Bass track for you CC

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    pcderic
    pcderic 18 days ago

    Sounds great. Thanks buddy. Also, nice background and nice T!

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    pcderic
    pcderic 18 days ago

    CopyCat I wonder if we could cut off the guitar hum at the beginning?

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    pcderic
    pcderic 18 days ago

    CopyCat OK, now I'm nitpicky. Just noticed your track seems to be clipping. I wonder if your original track you uploaded had this problem?

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    Bdajaysus
    Bdajaysus 18 days ago

    Rob love the tone and groove with Hal's guitar , awsome keys Eric and at this stage is a given CC always brings his "A" game I'm guessing you were top of the class CC

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    CopyCat
    CopyCat 18 days ago

    @pcderic: Regarding the guitar hum at the beginning; We can certainly clean that up before the final mix. No worries. And regarding the clipping in the vocal track; I noticed that too. I must have boosted the track gain unnecessarily. I have saved the original unboosted (non-clipping) vocal track, so I can swap those tracks when I get the chance. No problem. I appreciate your ears noticing things that can improve. We should all do that, IMO.

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    pcderic
    pcderic 18 days ago

    @CopyCat : Agreed. Thanks !

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    CopyCat
    CopyCat 18 days ago

    @pcderic: I fixed those tracks you mentioned. Nice improvement.

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    CyberBass
    CyberBass 18 days ago

    @pcderic: haha just saw this - yeah I have a few Rush T’s… lol

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    CyberBass
    CyberBass 18 days ago

    When did this become "she gets high"? I've been listening to this on the radio for like 50 years - are you telling me this was censored? ? I never owned the album...or did they re-issue the tune with diff lyrics?

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    CopyCat
    CopyCat 18 days ago

    CyberBass - Yeah, the version we're all familiar with has the word "high" cut out. Interesting to hear what Jim actually sang there. If you google it, you'll probably learn something about that.

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    CyberBass
    CyberBass 18 days ago

    @CopyCat : Crazy man, there's a ton of people who have never heard the high part. https://www.reddit.com/r/Retco....nned/comments/8t4y0e

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    CopyCat
    CopyCat 18 days ago

    @CyberBass: Yeah, I was one of those people, until fairly recently.

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    CopyCat
    CopyCat 18 days ago

    @CyberBass: Maybe because the pot laws are changing. :-)

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    CyberBass
    CyberBass 18 days ago

    @CopyCat : Way ahead of ya up here bro! 2018. They are slowly talking about legalizing psychedelics in the US too. It's mail-order up here lol. I get fb ads for shrooms and lsd now!

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    CyberBass
    CyberBass 18 days ago

    psychedelics are not legal but tolerated I guess

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    CopyCat
    CopyCat 18 days ago

    @CyberBass: Wow! "The times, they are a-changing"

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    pcderic
    pcderic 18 days ago

    @CopyCat : I just learned that too (the lyrics). Actually, I didn't undertand what "she gets" meant. All makes sense now.

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    ftele
    ftele 18 days ago

    Sent a track in guys. I can re-do if ya like i think i'm too loud too.

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    CopyCat
    CopyCat 18 days ago

    ftele - I think your recording level is good. No signs of clipping in your waveform. Again, a very cool and fitting performance, and so quickly done. Thanks a lot!! I'd say your timing sounds right set at around .035 and I panned tracks similar to the original stereo recording. So far, I think we all sound really good together on this. Even with the BT muted. Looking forward to Rob's bass track next!

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    pcderic
    pcderic 18 days ago

    @Copycat ftele I agree. I like the jazzy guitar version you've done here. Blends really with the jazzy drumming from Bdajaysus. Very cool! There's a nice little black corner for you there Mr CyberBass Rob (no rush)...

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    pcderic
    pcderic 18 days ago

    CopyCat ftele Bdajaysus CyberBass I uploaded a different keys track, with a Rhodes-sounding E.P. instead of organ, to hopefully gel better with the guitar/drums style we have so far (and leaving more room for the bass). Let me know if you prefer the previous version I uploaded? I left it in Draft. Copycat, the guitar track will probably need to be higher in the mix.

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    CopyCat
    CopyCat 18 days ago

    @pcderic: I like the Rhodes sound. Once again, very well played and mixes in well after a minor timing adjustment. Volume levels are always subject to change. Keys may be too low in the current mix. Everyone is welcome to submit volume changes in DAW. So far sounding great!

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