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Ok, still working on it. About the thin-vocal issue, I tried a few last things to better understand what’s going on. This time I tried to reinforce a few frequencies without relying too much on how it sounds in the DAW, since it usually changes a lot once I upload it to Bandhug — probably some kind of compression happening.
I also exported the audio as WAV instead of MP3, and switched the video export to AAC 320 kbps (it was 192 kbps before), trying to get something closer to what I actually hear in the DAW. I kept the previous mix as well so you can compare the two. The last one is the one without the volume boosted. Please, let me know what you think.
You're on the right track AAC is lossless. Bandhug uses 128kbps from what I recall with Yves however when uploading a track you can select 256k (6:1 compression CD quality) which does help (320kbps is 4:1 compression) but this only matters when you are playing live into BH not if you have produced a track offline by which you have. I'll try and compare both tracks but you're on the right track. I also wonder if any phasing is occurring with your double track?
@Revup67: About the double-tracking, yes — there might be some phasing going on. They’re different takes, not with perfect alignment, but I think in some verses it can bring frequencies cancelled. I'll take another look on that.
I have to say that it sounds better Mattos, but there is still too much high frequency I think. It sounds better to my ears when I add a low pass filter at 5200 hz. You said that you used a double track. Could it be some kind of phase cancellation ?
@Claude : spot on was thinking the same. I also note in the WAV there's clipping which would detract from the sound. I've republished with the newer version but just need to figure out which is which in Studio Mode and remove the muted track. But damn what a friggin performance huh? PS when Mattos says Smokin and also Get High it's not as shreeking and the verse right after is also better.
Well, to really make sure any possible phasing is fixed, I realized I’ll have quite a bit of work here, because I didn’t separate the main and double buses — I did everything with volume automation. It’s going to take some work, but based on your feedback I really think the issue is the double track. Give me a little time, I’ll fix the clipping and reduce any chance of phasing
@mattos: thanks you may be right about BH. I just did a DAW mix and what I hear in DAW is not what's published even after a refresh. I'm going to put everything back in the center and leave as is. Mattos thanks for your efforts and if we can be of any help please let us know. We are all here to support each other.
@mattos: anytime..just republished with the best version. panning is spot on now.
Hey guys, I finally got the video uploaded. I went with a double-tracked vocal to get closer to Ozzy’s vibe. Let me know if anything needs tweaking. Thanks a ton for the patience!
Wow what a great performance ! Much improved Mattos timing and flow..just couldn't be any better. Only thing I can think of is (and this might be on my end I'm not sure)..the 'sound quality' only of the vocals seems narrow as if only the treble frequencies are working. Is anyone else experiencing the same? I'll try a refresh later and see if that helps.
@Revup67: Hey Anthony, thanks for the kind words and the feedback. I’m not sure if this is exactly what you meant, but I did feel the vocal losing some weight, especially when I jump into mixed voice. I checked to see if I had any high-pass on, but actually I didn’t use any EQ at all. I think I might try boosting a few frequencies and remixing it.
Hats off Mattos, I'm blowned away. So good performance and a killer look. I love it. I want to hear you louder. I don't know what cause the narrow sound but a low pass filter somewhere in the 4,2k could help and maybe aboost somwhere around 1,2k.
@mattos: I think you are on it! I agree also with HotPico below (or above). The vocals sound much too thin but yes a High Pass would be my first inspection which would eliminate any lower frequencies. It sounds like you are on this. Thank you for understanding and look forward to hearing more dynamics from your great voice!
Thanks a lot, everyone, for the feedback. I tried a new mix trying to find more space. Let me know what u think.
Finally redid the vocals, guys. I’d like to thank my family, my friends hahaha.
Hey guys, sorry for taking so long. I’m editing the video and syncing everything tonight — I’ll upload the file later today or tomorrow at the latest.
This collab was pretty challenging, but you guys absolutely crushed it.
May Ozzy hear us boast in Heaven - great work to all..thanks Mattos..looking forward. Maybe we will get Bandhug video of the year? This was truly a tough one for everyone. I've never considered Sabbath a difficult band to replicate, I was dead wrong. They were truly great!
I can't wait to hear that Mattos! And yes, there is a lot of challenge in Black Sabbath's music :-)
Hi All..keeping this smokin' Collab Unlisted until the final mix is done. Will make it Public and Completed at that point so it makes its grand entrance.
UkeMom, Strumbo, Flmusicgal, Bdajayus, thanks for sharing your talents to get this collab complete. And keeping classic vintage country music alive. This is pretty much done, so let me know if anyone has mix recommendations. Thanks again, Rick
Something wrong with my track. Most of it is missing. I’ll have to check tomorrow. I just got a new laptop & just set it up this morning & this was the test run. I got to see if I’m missing something. Sorry:-(
I was noted it was just one chorus and verse line. But published anyway. So glad you intended more that that. No rush and send me another “test run” ! Thanks again.
@Flmusicgal: That was a good one, really sounds great and glad you got that technical issue fixed with your new set up. Thanks much, Rick
@Rick : Still working on the set up. I wish I knew an easy way to swap some of my favorite program settings to the new computer,
I lowered all these track volumes; I may merge there are only 2 guitar tracks or I'm going to do them all over again
onamission5 should be more to yur liking.. any sugestions are welcome as usual.. hope it fits
Hello I saw you have the bass open for Bus Stop & I love this song & you did a grate job on the acoustic guitar Jaugb & I always want to do an acoustic cover of the song so I hope you like my acoustic bass track I for you cheers mate
Very nice guitar, Brijcam. Excellent. You mind saving the drums for me. I didn't know the song but I just learned it. First take was kind of rough, but I can get it. I might look into some tonal adjustments or doing the drum parts in two tracks to EQ them differently.
great stuff man, I'm in if you need a bassist. Good to see you back at it! If you're up for Pearl Jam State of Love & Trust or 311 Beautiful Disaster let me know.
@chazzwi: Really nice! The sync point that came over in your mix was off. Not sure what happened but I adjusted it. Sounds right to me but let me know. Thanks!
@brijamcam: thanks, I adjusted the sync in the mix but it sounds like it didn't save. Sounds good now
brijamcam - Nice work man ! Never heard this song before - it rocks ! Great playing ! Esp. that clean pickin' part !
@jaybern - Excellent job on Rhythm Guitar! Right in the pocket. Thank you.
There is a slight hum on your track but I don't know if there is anything you can do about it. It's not noticeable once the song gets going.
I turned the backing track up so that arejay222 can hear the vocals better.
Applied the Revup67 mix again. Moved the drums back to 00,00,000. I don't know how they got so far off. Remember, the color stereo mix will be gone when I delete it at the end. Its volume is currently set to zero. What we are hearing now is the original black and white mono BT for accuracy.Published again with current audio settings.
11-20-25 trimmed drum track video to 0.00.00 . it should be in sync at this point
@Revup67: Backed the sax and strings off just a bit after listening through speakers, The rhythm section really drives this song!
Stu, can you please switch/renumber the count track and the BT? Right now, the count-in track is the BT at Track 1. That should be a user track and Track 2, and Track 2 should be retitled BT, and numbered as Track 1. If you do this I can play tot he BT and not have to worry about the mix. Also, if I'm going to play a cover drum track as you seem to want, I'll want to play to the BT with the original BT mix. Thanks.
@stubass: I don't think so. You just have to go into edit collab and change those two things. The BT will become track one and the count in Track 2. In edit collab you'll find the toggles.
oops!!! I thought the rhythm track was guitar, but it's actually Carol King on piano. if you publish it, I go ahead and delete that rhythm track for the keys
Hi Richard, did you want me to publish? I tried to reserve for you but my computer wouldn't let me.
brijamcam - Nice work pal...I will get a track to you soon..When I get back from the Pink Pony Club..
Hey folks. Is anyone else having the same problem as bbrian? He can't hear Rick's guitar in the intro.
I don't hear the whole guitar intro, just FYI, and BT isn't muted I always just remove the BT
yep, great job everyone, I think the collab is locked, was trying to get a mix of my own, :)
@bbrian: Do you find the pads easier to play? I think it would be hard to get used to
@Stephen Sable: I like the mesh head for more real feel bounce but I also like the firmness of pads
@bbrian: yeah, it's a roland td-10 . I never got all the superior drummer stuff working to record anything that sounded good yet
Strumbo SixStringRick bbrian yoshikoba 1983Electric - Excellent work Gents ! Honoured to be part of this one !
Added bass track.. I haven't changed anything with the volume, so feel free to adjust the DAW mix so we can hear everybody good :)
Excellent bass track, SS. It carries the song. Great job all around, players. The only weak link is the vocalist. This one is in the can. Thanks.
@Strumbo: Nice work getting this one together with some exceptional talent…and that vocal sounds pretty good too. Rick
All the tracks are there guys and I'm so happy with the result. You all did the difference in this collab, thanks for joining me in this project. I did some adjustments to the mix. Please have a listen and let me know if it sounds good to your ears. I will also reorder the tiles.
It sounds good, hopefully you can make it public so others can enjoy too :)
@Stephen Sable: Thanks Stephen! It will be public soon, but I want to understand why there is some artifact in the video after publishing. Maybe @Dennisski or @YvesC can explain me.
@Stephen Sable: Finally, it seems that it is BandHug limitations when the project is too ressource-intensive.
@Claude : I'm guessing several videos uploaded recorded offline and large files being compressed down. I'm lucky to be able to record straight to the browser from webcam and audio mixer.
Here is a bass track. I played along with just you guys and not the backing track. It sounds so good. I hope you like the track.
Stephen, your track is just perfect !! It is so good, you made my day. Thanks so much.
11-23-25 Yeah billbassdude way to go ! Just solo'd out the bass line, man you are all over that one, great work..tough track indeed..hope we can get this one finished...not easy for sure
listened over 20x times today, never grows old. I hear there's 3 guitar tracks on that one..that lead is sensational.
11-21-25 - Backing Track uploaded. Remastered in Studio One for optimum sound with ProEq VST and with a proper Click Track. Hoping for a great outcome on this one.
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Hank87 rrbrass yoshikoba ftFonz - Gentlemen ! Thank you for lending your time and talent. Are we ok to close ?
something went wrong with sending the notification and track. Hope you recieve it now.
Hi Frank, drumtrack for review
Added vibraphone track for review ..Thanks for the invite..
bass track sent in...thanks for the invite!!