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Against the Wind by Bob Seger

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Published on 04 Mar 2024 / In Rock / Classic Rock

Cover of Against the Wind by Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band

Special thanks to all contributors:
- @Copycat / Van (vocals)
- @CyberBass / Rob (bass)
- @Bdajaysus / John (drums)
- @pcderic / Eric (keys)

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pcderic
pcderic 8 days ago

Michmuch Thanks for accepting! Looking forward to it (no rush). I've removed the old thread to keep things tidy.

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CopyCat
CopyCat 8 days ago

Welcome Michmuch !!

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Michmuch
Michmuch 8 days ago

@CopyCat : Thanks for thinking of me for this collab :-)

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CopyCat
CopyCat 2 months ago

BVs in. Let me know if that works.

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Bdajaysus
Bdajaysus 2 months ago

Just had a listen CC great job @Eric must not have got the notification

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pcderic
pcderic 1 month ago

Thanks so much CC. Published. Sound awesome!

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CopyCat
CopyCat 2 months ago

BVs have been recorded. I will submit tomorrow night.

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CyberBass
CyberBass 2 months ago

Looking forward to it CC

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CyberBass
CyberBass 2 months ago

Bass track for you Mr pcderic - I saved a mix to balance the levels a bit too . So many changes - damn - is this the high G or the low G at this part? dammit! haha

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pcderic
pcderic 2 months ago

Thank you! Sounds great and tight. It certainly fills a void. It's perfect. Published!

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pcderic
pcderic 2 months ago

On my end, it's the chord progressions G-D-C and G-C-D in verses that I keep mixing up.

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CyberBass
CyberBass 2 months ago

@Eric : Thank you Eric. Did you try my mix? Bass is full volume in the published mix. Way too loud imo

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pcderic
pcderic 2 months ago

@CyberBass: Ah, just noticed the Saved Mix feature. My problem right now is that I just redid my piano/organ track so I think I cannot reuse your mix. I'll try to adjust the mix properly and republish and let you review in a jiffy...

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CyberBass
CyberBass 2 months ago

@Eric : You are correct, the saved mixes also save the tracks themselves. I saved a new mix if you want to listen.

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pcderic
pcderic 2 months ago

@CyberBass: We're working at the same time on the same stuff so I'll back-off a bit for now. I just published my own mix (not knowing you were doing it too) but don't hesitate to let me know if what's there isn't as good as your mix? I also removed the BT to remove that crutch for our listening. Might have to put it back in for the guitarist...

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pcderic
pcderic 2 months ago

Actually, I'm still not happy with my latest recording. I'll redo again. :-)

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CyberBass
CyberBass 2 months ago

@Eric : Our own worst enemy eh? lol I thought it sounded good but you know best.

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CyberBass
CyberBass 2 months ago

@Eric : The lowest level is the keys. The rest of the levels need to be dropped to balance it all out evenly.

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pcderic
pcderic 2 months ago

@CyberBass: Correct. Especially with this song, there's some numbing effect going on. I think it's the singing that takes away my focus somehow (that's a compliment).

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CyberBass
CyberBass 2 months ago

@Eric : Agreed. In my mix I dropped everything but the keys. Vocals too.

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pcderic
pcderic 2 months ago

@CyberBass: Awesome background with the horses.

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CyberBass
CyberBass 2 months ago

@Eric : They're silver bullet horses!

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pcderic
pcderic 2 months ago

@CyberBass: I didn't even know that's where the band name came from. Just learned something.

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CyberBass
CyberBass 2 months ago

@Eric : Lol - sorry didn't mean to mislead, I was just being stupid. I wanted running horses like Seger's album covers.

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CyberBass
CyberBass 2 months ago

@Eric : Sorry about that - I tend to tweak the audio until it sounds right. But I have no ability to publish your collab. Anyway, my hands are off! The BT should prob stay until the last recording is in. Just lower the volume completely to remove it from the mix beforehand.

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pcderic
pcderic 2 months ago

@CyberBass: Agreed, you wouldn't havenoticed it but I published after muting the BT, then I restored the BT volume for the next contrib w/o republishing. So I just wanted to hear how good it sounded w/o crutches. :-)

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CyberBass
CyberBass 2 months ago

@Eric : yes the true collab is laid bare with the bt at zero!

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Bdajaysus
Bdajaysus 2 months ago

Sent in a track Eric , any changes needed do ask. Very impressive start @Eric and @CopyCat

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pcderic
pcderic 2 months ago

Thanks so much, that's great! Very solid and pretty quick. Thanks for putting in the time to practice this one. It's not as common as other songs.... FYI, I trimmed your track by -0.090 to make it line up as closely as a could (looking in DAW in max. zoom). Let me know if you're OK with my operation. Your first hit is a snare and the song's is the bass drum so that threw me off a bit :-).

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pcderic
pcderic 2 months ago

Listening to it, there's some timings that are off. I'm not sure yet where. I think it's the keys that need adjustment (or a retake)...

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Bdajaysus
Bdajaysus 2 months ago

@Eric : yep happy with the changes , I know you can add your own count in which would have helped. CopyCat can add a count in if you ask and I can redo , it's never a problem. Bandhug count in is just default.

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CyberBass
CyberBass 2 months ago

Love it John! we're sounding right in the pocket!

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Bdajaysus
Bdajaysus 2 months ago

@CyberBass: Agreed !!!

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CyberBass
CyberBass 2 months ago

@Bdajaysus: I’ve been recording offline lately and using my own count-in with reaper. It’s just quicker to get started

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CopyCat
CopyCat 2 months ago

@CyberBass: In the pocket, right on! Solid rhythm section.

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CyberBass
CyberBass 2 months ago

@Eric : To add a count-in (would have to adjust all tracks afterward in DAW), add a track from YouTube - Artist: BandHug ,Song : Count In and choose from there

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pcderic
pcderic 2 months ago

@CyberBass: That's a PITA! :-) I guess I prefer accepting imperfect beginnings and endings (to lots of UI refresh wait times). But for the endings (in future collabs), come to think of it, maybe I'll start including ending instructions from the get-go in the comments?

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CyberBass
CyberBass 2 months ago

@Eric : haha - yes it is a pain for sure! I think we’re limited with endings on hug. Offline you can taper but not everyone works offline

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Bdajaysus
Bdajaysus 2 months ago

@Eric : YvesC always edits his collabs with a count-in and count-out. They really sound polished

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pcderic
pcderic 2 months ago

@Bdajaysus: Ok, Just to be clear, are you asking me to do this here or for our future collabs?

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pcderic
pcderic 2 months ago

How does count out work? Asking cuz I normally prefer avoiding fade outs be finding a clean ending (although I haven't done enough of that on Hug)

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pcderic
pcderic 2 months ago

@YvesC don't hesitate to enlighten me (or John)

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pcderic
pcderic 2 months ago

You have a Collab I should check out?

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Bdajaysus
Bdajaysus 2 months ago

@Eric : for the future Eric this sounds too good even with the few flaws I introduced deliberately (NOT)

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Bdajaysus
Bdajaysus 2 months ago

The count in and out are embedded in backing track and it's a simple count of 4 for both. YvesC did it for one of my collabs I'll send you the link after I sort it on my pc as Collab is completed

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pcderic
pcderic 2 months ago

@Bdajaysus: LOL, let's blame the green beer. Joking aside, I haven't heard any flaw but maybe it's because mine bother me more

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