Thanks, Rick. I'll check it out. I'm away until Thursday. I gave my laptop with me but no headphones and only a crappy in frame speaker, but I should be able to publish if that's what you want me to do. It's my old Win 7 laptop and it doesn't really like big collabs. It hangs up in DAW if they get too big. I'll give it a try though. Otherwise it'll have to wait until I get back.

^have not gave

I can tell you were really straining on this one, Rick. The back up leads sound pretty good, but being in that range through the whole song takes a toll. Why not try splitting it into three tracks? Also, I can hear your early start. I'll hold off on publishing for now.

@Bob : yeah, agreed! Let me try it again. Thanks!

Let me know, Clay. I published from your DAW and it sounded really good on my speakers. Totally open to anything you want.

@Bob : Tight rhythm section. You guys are locked in together. Sounds awesome so far!

Yoshi Perfecto!!! Thank you my friend :-)))

I'll be here in a few days Hal and CC this has Hal written all over it, we already covered this on Bandhub and it was Hal introduced me to Doyle Bramhall

ftele - I don't want the vocals. I don't even know the song. Just want to hear you sing it. I can imagine, you probably sing as soulfully as you play.

ksam - Absolutely fantastic my friend ! You rock ! Spotlights are a nice touch too ! Sorry about the delay...I musta overlooked the notice...You shoulda knocked on my door and yelled 'Come On Let's Go !' and I woulda pubbed sooner ! Thanks a bunch man ! I just rewatched the movie after several years and felt like covering this. Honoured that you have joined me !

@thx1138: No problem Frank, forget it, it can happen to everyone, I'm glad you like it, thank you for publishing, I saw the film a few years ago, I loved it, very moving at the end when on the radio he announces the plane crash I still remember it I almost cried Lol

Muchas Gracias !

Byrdlander - Oh Man, that Byrdland. Such a sweet sound. I love that crunchy distortion on it. Another outstanding track from James, thank you! Can't wait to hear what else you have coming.

@CopyCat : That is my 59 Les Paul Standard re-issue. It's an awesome Les Paul. I don't think I've played the Byrdland on Bandhug, but I did ona couple of tunz on the Hub. Doing taxes tonight (I owe), so maybe some late night madness or tomorrow. Did I see that Dennis said uploades were allowed now?

Thanks for the comments on my tone. I used a 55 Fender tweed deluxe amp pedal from Universal Audio, which is the company that produces the Apollo interfaces I use. This system has Sharc processing in the interface, so that you can use plugins such as compression and effects in real time when you record, so I don't have to worry about applying that Bandhug even though I don't have access to the tools. It's a great system, and it's a long way from where I started on Bandhub when it was new.

@Byrdlander : Yes, I did read the contest rule change about uploads. That is great news, and that is also why I have decided to take advantage of it. I'm currently (as you may see) consolidating some tracks to reduce our total number of tracks in the collab. This helps pages load faster, and makes recording easier for everyone. Gotta get back to it now...

It's unfortunate we have to consolidate because of performance. It's like working with an old 4 track machine, having to bounce down tracks and never being able to change the mix within that bounce, or adding a bunch of work to do it, and then you still have the limitation of having to raise and lower an individual track within the "bounced" track, and it does reduce fidelity of each individual track. But then I'm an old fart who just wants it to work without all this fuss! Forgive me.

@Byrdlander : Haha, You're forgiven. I get what you're saying. Rest assured, these changes don't have to be permanent, because I'm not deleting any of the original tracks. Just gonna store them in Drafts. Mix changes will still be possible, no worries.

@CopyCat : Thanks for getting it! Yeah, for example, I might want to solo my two acoustic tracks to get tone and relative balance, same with my electrics. So anyway, we can work together if I need a change. Thanks, man.

@Byrdlander : Absolutely, I plan to work with everyone that way.

@Byrdlander : In Drafts, your electric guitar track with your head cut out of the frame.. That was in there. Did you plan to use that one, or can we delete it? I prefer not to save anything in Drafts that we're not using in the collab. If it's scrap, lets delete it, OK?

@CopyCat : That can go, it's clammy

A1 Clay !!!

Glad to be back and will join some more. Brings back some memories. The track could use some dampening of the higher freqs to get rid of some of the string noise and excessive harmonics. Maybe even add a touch of bottom. However, we know that diifferent speakers and people hear things differently. Just sounds a little twangy.

@cDub: Clay CopyCat can do some post production offline with the other collabs but for this competition that's not allowed, great to see and hear you man

@Bdajaysus: there is an on-board EQ in the DAW but non-subscribers (me) can't use it.

@cDub: Yeah it's not great but CC can access it alright

@cDub: Good observation. I shall tweak the EQ as you say the best I can, but I don't plan to publish again until the next track is submitted, FYI.

@Bdajaysus: I can use the Bandhug EQ, that's fine.

@cDub: Have a listen to your track now., in Studio or DAW. I just changed the EQ a bit. Is that the sound you wanted? Also, here's a screenshot of the new EQ settings... https://jmp.sh/s/kXSutOjIy5C0cPKormxE

@CopyCat : Much better with the string and finger noise gone. Let's see how it sounds when the guitar comes in.

cDub Sounding good!

Like maybe a little more rollicking crash, bang, boom! A bit.more of a galloping feel? Like a little more gallump gallump gallump to go with the r

...to go with the high hat tzz tzz tzz... Right? Right! :-)

Thanks Don. Will have a listen.

Thanks Robert. If you can use this track you might want to give it some EQ, reverb etc. J

@b33zo: Will do. Sounds pretty good right out of the box though.

Hey, is that a stack of cassette tapes on the shelf above your keyboard? All my cassettes are in dusty boxes in the garage.

Thanks Rick! The mandolin adds a certain simple but pleasing je ne sais quoi to the whole proceedings. Cool.

Hello Byrdlander, thanks for your interest in singing this lovely song, please, go ahead. By the way, I'm 65 yo too, but this song wasn't known by me in Brazil when I was a kid, but it's never late. Regards!

We appreciate the communication.

ftele Are you up for it? It's OK if you're not. I'd like to ask someone else if you prefer to focus on something else.

Is that an illegal smile I hear you ask ?

@Bdajaysus: Nailed it note-for-note, from beginning to end. Outstanding!! Pure perfection.

@CopyCat : CC to hear you say that means so much my friend, thank you sincerely

@Bdajaysus: +1 on what @copycat said. We just can't throw a curve at you! Again, love that rim beat and then the transition to full drums which adds excitement. Bet it took a few listens to figure out when to do the snare repeats (how do you call that?) at the of the shortened solo?

@pcderic: Eric I'm watching the time slot and listening , if it's very complicated I might write down the time slots for changes I also add the songs I intend playing to my spotify playlist Helps memory muscle

Thanks! I still need to work on it but yes, it's the muscle memory that eventually kicks in. That'll be why it may take me lots of time on some collabs...

Thanks for your reply Claude. No worries. I'm hoping this will free you for your work in Comf. Numb. :-)

CopyCat Let me know who you'd suggest, from your knowledge of the guitar part here and the styles of players we have in the BH pool?

@pcderic: I think Michmuch would be good to cover the guitars here, thanks.

Just had a listen CC great job @Eric must not have got the notification

Thanks so much CC. Published. Sound awesome!

Looking forward to it CC

Thank you! Sounds great and tight. It certainly fills a void. It's perfect. Published!

On my end, it's the chord progressions G-D-C and G-C-D in verses that I keep mixing up.

@Eric : Thank you Eric. Did you try my mix? Bass is full volume in the published mix. Way too loud imo

@CyberBass: Ah, just noticed the Saved Mix feature. My problem right now is that I just redid my piano/organ track so I think I cannot reuse your mix. I'll try to adjust the mix properly and republish and let you review in a jiffy...

@Eric : You are correct, the saved mixes also save the tracks themselves. I saved a new mix if you want to listen.

@CyberBass: We're working at the same time on the same stuff so I'll back-off a bit for now. I just published my own mix (not knowing you were doing it too) but don't hesitate to let me know if what's there isn't as good as your mix? I also removed the BT to remove that crutch for our listening. Might have to put it back in for the guitarist...

Actually, I'm still not happy with my latest recording. I'll redo again. :-)

@Eric : Our own worst enemy eh? lol I thought it sounded good but you know best.

@Eric : The lowest level is the keys. The rest of the levels need to be dropped to balance it all out evenly.

@CyberBass: Correct. Especially with this song, there's some numbing effect going on. I think it's the singing that takes away my focus somehow (that's a compliment).

@Eric : Agreed. In my mix I dropped everything but the keys. Vocals too.

@CyberBass: Awesome background with the horses.

@Eric : They're silver bullet horses!

@CyberBass: I didn't even know that's where the band name came from. Just learned something.

@Eric : Lol - sorry didn't mean to mislead, I was just being stupid. I wanted running horses like Seger's album covers.

@Eric : Sorry about that - I tend to tweak the audio until it sounds right. But I have no ability to publish your collab. Anyway, my hands are off! The BT should prob stay until the last recording is in. Just lower the volume completely to remove it from the mix beforehand.

@CyberBass: Agreed, you wouldn't havenoticed it but I published after muting the BT, then I restored the BT volume for the next contrib w/o republishing. So I just wanted to hear how good it sounded w/o crutches. :-)

@Eric : yes the true collab is laid bare with the bt at zero!

Thanks so much, that's great! Very solid and pretty quick. Thanks for putting in the time to practice this one. It's not as common as other songs.... FYI, I trimmed your track by -0.090 to make it line up as closely as a could (looking in DAW in max. zoom). Let me know if you're OK with my operation. Your first hit is a snare and the song's is the bass drum so that threw me off a bit :-).

Listening to it, there's some timings that are off. I'm not sure yet where. I think it's the keys that need adjustment (or a retake)...

@Eric : yep happy with the changes , I know you can add your own count in which would have helped. CopyCat can add a count in if you ask and I can redo , it's never a problem. Bandhug count in is just default.

Love it John! we're sounding right in the pocket!

@CyberBass: Agreed !!!

@Bdajaysus: I’ve been recording offline lately and using my own count-in with reaper. It’s just quicker to get started

@CyberBass: In the pocket, right on! Solid rhythm section.

@Eric : To add a count-in (would have to adjust all tracks afterward in DAW), add a track from YouTube - Artist: BandHug ,Song : Count In and choose from there

@CyberBass: That's a PITA! :-) I guess I prefer accepting imperfect beginnings and endings (to lots of UI refresh wait times). But for the endings (in future collabs), come to think of it, maybe I'll start including ending instructions from the get-go in the comments?

@Eric : haha - yes it is a pain for sure! I think we’re limited with endings on hug. Offline you can taper but not everyone works offline

@Eric : YvesC always edits his collabs with a count-in and count-out. They really sound polished

@Bdajaysus: Ok, Just to be clear, are you asking me to do this here or for our future collabs?

How does count out work? Asking cuz I normally prefer avoiding fade outs be finding a clean ending (although I haven't done enough of that on Hug)

@YvesC don't hesitate to enlighten me (or John)

You have a Collab I should check out?

@Eric : for the future Eric this sounds too good even with the few flaws I introduced deliberately (NOT)

The count in and out are embedded in backing track and it's a simple count of 4 for both. YvesC did it for one of my collabs I'll send you the link after I sort it on my pc as Collab is completed

@Bdajaysus: LOL, let's blame the green beer. Joking aside, I haven't heard any flaw but maybe it's because mine bother me more

yes

Daniel_Isaacs - Hi Dan - Sometimes playback in studio is a bit funny....I think it is best to either listen to the published vid or in DAW....Unless I mis-understood ? Sorry,,,?

Grant - Well done Grant ! Great backdrop too ! But the t-shirt ? Hmmmm...Uh-Uh !

@thx1138: Thanks Frank, I see you got it right, I just grabbed what was on the top of washing pile lol and great guitars as always.

Hank87 Hank I sent in tamborine without the backing track I hope you can sync it

@Bdajaysus: Hank87 - Tambo sounds great John ! Small and essential part for this song.

Thank you Hank..The ending vocal part is great!! There is no BV in your additional ending vocal part, so I think it's fine as is.

May I combine your tracks? (Only track 4) Leave both audios.

Yes please, and tha k you....

@Hank87: I did it, In addition, I lowered the sound of the acoustic guitar a little and made the drum sound louder.I hope you it.

Looks and sounds sweet YvesC , well done.

Thanks :)

Hi Fuss, yes, it's just in my demo I copied/pasted 4 times the same section. For the real collab, here, I will do real tracks :) Probably this evening.

Fuss_Mussington YvesC - Gentlemen ! Explore and exercise your musical creativity as you feel !

Grant - Superb my friend ! Sweetly Superb ! Amazing how a part like that is so essential to the song and you were awesome ! Thanks so much !

Grant - Level is ok to you ?

@thx1138: Thanks Frank I am glad you liked it, I think the volumes not bad, you could lower it some more, just so its sweet and subtle if you like :-)

Good luck ! :D

pcderic - No Luck ! Skill ! Good Skill !

@thx1138: Thanks for wishing me skill (as if there's no chance of that LOL). I just submitted a prelim track before dodo. I'll resubmit something tighter hopefully tomorrow. No need to publish.

YvesC - FYI, I'm not practicing/recording it like Ray M. would play it (left hand sounding like bass), to leave the room for the bass (which will definitely come out tighter with you playing it).

Agreed and appreciated Eric.

an old fight when playing in a band ...

https://www.talkbass.com/attac....hments/49015719_1016

I think Frank would day indubitably. :)

cbgb YvesC - LOL !

ellervis Hi, just noticed you raised your hand on this one but that you haven't signed-in to BH for a while. Frank and I did a few Doors collabs recently. I was wondering if you'll really do it or if you decided to stop using BH? I don't want to jump ahead of you if you'll do it soon enough?

SingingWomble - Oh yeah ! Excellent ! Thanks man ! The LIZARD KING has arrived !

@thx1138: ...I can do anything. ... how it sounds is another matter, lol ;oD

I NEVER argue with the engineer. Thx for all your help :-)

@stubass: It's a pleasure. BTW, I never knew you had such a beautiful singing voice! ;-)

@CopyCat : I wish :-) New DAW published. Thx :-)

Margarex Interesada?

Maurizio Ciao amico. Qui potremmo fare più voci secondarie. Interessato?

@pcderic: According to her profile page ( https://bandhug.com/@Laurast ), Laurast hasn't been involved in a Bandhug collab in more than 3 years. And it appears she checks in only occasionally. That tells me she most likely would not be interested (but I suppose I could be wrong about that).

@pcderic: And of course, you can delete my name from the BVs invite, as I declined immediately upon receipt of my invitation. Only the LV was of interest to me.

@pcderic: Ciao, mi spiace ma non riesco, scusa!

Hey CopyCat. I had informed Eric that I would need time for this project because I was traveling when he invited me and I had others to finalize upon my return before tackling this one. I started dissecting the guitar score this week but it will still take me a little more time because I have other priorities at the moment. No problem if you want to invite someone else, just let me know so I won't work on this one anymore.

@Claude : Forgive my misunderstanding. Will check back in another couple of months...

@Claude : No rush but do let us know if you won't get around to it within a few months? Thanks for your answer and thanks to CopyCat for these follow-ups.

@pcderic: I think it will be done in the next 2 weeks Eric. I'm working on it.

Hey CopyCat. Happy to be with you on a project. It's been a long time :-)

I would be much happier with drums faded it would be better than a redo for me

I think I understand why you're suggesting this but I'm not sure of the imoact. Are you suggesting that after your operation, drums will be the BT and that a future lead guitarist won't be able to hear le lead guitar from the original BT?

(which may not be a real issue for a guitarist that knows what to play anyway?)

@Eric : Nooo, when you import a track that is not your own, you must import as a BT otherwise it will get my username stamped at the beginning when the video loads

And I do not have rights to change it to John so it will remain a BT

Or, you insinuate that by making the drums (with fade out) the main BT, we'll remove the original BT (fromYoutube) whenever we want (if at all)?

@Eric : No, the BT must remain until all have recorded their tracks.

@CyberBass: Thanks for clarifying for the newbie :-). Although I didn't mind the way drums ended the video, I also welcome a fadeout. Perhaps we wait at the end and see if that fade still makes sense?

(the lead guitarist might leverage the tight ending from John's drums?)

@Eric : Happy to help Eric! You said that you wanted a nice ending to the track in the “next” collab - which I assumed was this one. The offer stands if you want it later.

@Eric : I offered because every other track is faded out already.

@CyberBass: Good point, I say sure, why not.

@CyberBass: any trimming you take off here can you add it to the ending on Against The Wind please, I seem to have stopped short of the finish line there. Ohhh for a reliable drummer.....

Thanks John! The harmonies and changes in the tune are beautiful. Really important the bass follows those changes tightly. RIP Glenn Frey/Randy Meisner

Yes, filling out super nicely. No fancy op, just lots of talent. ;-)

there are 2 drop-down menus, the one under talent is that of the audio interface and the other selects the camera. make sure your audio interface is selected and adjust the volume so that the slider is green and occasionally yellow.

Make sure you see the green bars above the video before you start recording. https://bandhug.com/v/QAgxiP

a+

@carlo cppc: your markings are very generous but I am very happy to be part of the collab. Thank you Carlos

no campionship here only fun

Well spotted!!!

Surferbeto - Hey Surfer, yeah Fuss is signed up for this one. Sound intriguing! but I can't.

@CyberBass: Fuss will have fun with it and come up with something great and goofy. Rock on!

@Surferbeto: You’ve seen his work!

Thanks Surfer! Definitely disco eh?

@CyberBass: All the upbeat bass notes trip me out. I'm used to thinking of bass as being mostly about the downbeats.

@Surferbeto: felt very unnatural tbh

@CyberBass @surferbeto - That exactly the stuff that makes us grow, ain't it?

ftele Hi Hal I can do that in DAW good idea

@Bdajaysus: might be a very slight sync issue guys, doesn't sound as bad with bt muted

@Bdajaysus: BT is almost gone now John. Volume very low. We will line up again when we get our vocals and the BT will be gone.